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To think about what happens the day after. >> peter, did he make his case strongly? >> yeah. you have a cross cutting debate on a strategy. the one realist position, stick with the bad dictators to at least provide stability. the other view being we have to overthrow the incity gators because they are the cause. this will be a different general election debate if she's standing up there against cruz or trump -- >> but trump doesn't disagree with him when it comes to this. >> the hillary is running against trump or cruz, she will be running against smvn who is against the libya intervention and...

In iraq and the conflict in afghanistan, while i might have closen a different path, going into syria in a bigger way earlier was something that was strongly resifted by many in my caucus and many in the country. i do ink this that we had no great options. the emergence of isis has made it much more complicated and i think the obama administration has led the efforts against isis in iraq and we will now have to see how they can tackle them in syria. >> chris matthews continues to join us and monitor this conversation in washington. chris, if you're this administration, how can you put any kind...