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Health care coverage is so high that when you hire workers here, you have to pay such a larger amount. that impacts our abilities to attract jobs here also, so that's something we can't take our eye off the ball on. >> i'm not going to talk about this anymore, it's just going to irritate me. peter, it's a pleasure, krystal, you're staying -- everybody is staying. coming up on the d.r. show, a two-part look at race, prisons, american culture and america's relationship with young, black men in this country going back to the beginning of this country's founder. plus, what we don't get to see, i...

Federation of teachers as being one of the toughestç unions in america. no one resists change quite like a university professor does. >> well, listen, you want to start a reform coalition, professor? >> well, i'd love to, but when i talk about these things on campus, i'm considered to be somewhat of a dissident or, as kindly said, peter, too controversial. >> that's a common around this tv show. our students graduating with lots of debt. we've discussed it. little job prospects. there are, however, one very specific group of american corporations that are hiring like crazy. i'm referring to ...

What's going on in china and other places, how can we politicize the cost of college? we have to be making college as less expensive as possible. it's crucial for the future of the nation. >> meanwhile, the technology that has just exploded into the world, the lives of everybody, is a nnihilating the cost of learning. it's in the opposite direction, peter maresi, to the cost of the very education we're theoretically supposed to be paying for. it's like we lost our minds. >> this is an example of what i was alluding to, is that universities have really failed to embrace the computer, the opport...

Mechanism that would have been somewhat acceptable to both sides. it's almost routine for the democrats to suggest funding something by cutting oil subsidies. the republicans vote no, and then the president gets to say, i'm for helping students, they're for helping oil companies. education, that's a much bigger problem. education is in as much trouble as health care. universities are bloated, they're too expensive, they're overpriced, they're terribly inefficient and poorly managed. >> krystal, as the mother of a young child, as tory himself serves as a future generation of this country, what ...

Is outrageous. >> when you hire a national, it's not necessarily in your interest to do anything for americans, right? when big auto needed detroit to do good so we could do good for detroit, right? the corporation must do good for a nation that it's a part of. when you're a multi-national, it doesn't matter to you. >> it's the opposite. you want to do the pick-off. if you look, peter, at all the policies, and all the railing me really going back to 2008 have done. steel on wheels, 30 million jobs, all this nonsense, the banking crisis which at this point is overly covered to the point of disg...