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Infrastructure bill moved to the floor could be $5.5 trillion because of the phase-outs and other gimmicks hiding the overall costs. kevin mccarthy very upset. >> interesting speaker pelosi didn't want to talk about the numbers to say it's paid for. it is paid for by putting a debt onto the next generation of americans. that's how it's paid for. >> mccarthy says it could be more spending than we did for the total of world war ii if it passes. take the child tax credit for example. going up to $3600 a year. as much as all the income tax increases that were passed in the ways and means committee...

Estate tax, family farms falls under that business type of bracket. the big thing they really need to do a better job of explaining is, yes, a lot of these deductions are going to go away, but the big bet is if we double the standard deduction for the middle income family, a family of four $59,000 a year will get about $1,200 a year back. >> we have the bill. there are winners and losers. people between 20,000 t$20,000 $40,000. they see on average a tax increase. what's weird in this bill is they have corporate tax cuts that go in for ten years. >> from 35% to 20%. >> for a lot of the middle c...

Our processes working on donald trump is a huge part of it. look how he's got his shoulder to the wheel, working legislators to get things done. this is progression. >> meghan: can i expect rand paul to be on the lawn saying we all came together, fantastic we have a bill, we're repealing and replacing? do you think the freedom caucus will do that? >> ari: i think it's too big to fail. republicans don't get their act together, a separate version of the house, separate version of the senate, and compromise. you can have flexible types of grants, you can have phase outs for medicaid funding. thei...

Benefits as they earn more income, basically they feel they're climbing a ladder they can't get up. it's poverty perhaps created by these phase-outs. i think if we have a comprehensive reform of these programs that try to turn that into more of a slope, and obama care does that to an extent. currently you have this problem where if you don't work and you're on medicaid, you go back to work and you lose your health insurance. that discourages people from work. it would make welfare less of a poverty trap and that might change public perceptions that welfare is encouraging people to be lazy or n...