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But it's interesting about the poll he showed in iowa, and he's running dead even with perry in texas, but what you have is a phenom ma, and the phenomena is he represents all the anger and frustration and discontent against politics as usual and usual politicians. if he handles it well it could help them. you have two frontrunners in iowa. >> he will have agene way. see, make no mistake, the same political insiders, and the conventional wisdom told us at this early stage in the game that barack obama would have never beat hillary clinton. to try to underestimate herman cain, i think there are...

But it's interesting about the poll he showed in iowa, and he's running dead even with perry in texas, but what you have is a phenom ma, and the phenomena is he represents all the anger and frustration and discontent against politics as usual and usual politicians. if he handles it well it could help them. you have two frontrunners in iowa. >> he will have agene way. see, make no mistake, the same political insiders, and the conventional wisdom told us at this early stage in the game that barack obama would have never beat hillary clinton. to try to underestimate herman cain, i think there are...