It was like, look at these. is this what we think it is? and, absolutely it was. it was not a hard genealogy problem to solve. >> the idea of how this is coming. i remember reading more about this and what the mother went through, the criticism and failures she faced. the idea of people questioning her. not giving up hope. this reunification must have been so wonderful to be a part of. >> absolutely. i mean, even just, i live in minnesota, obviously, this happened in texas. you have a sister in spain, even from afar, this was amazing and i'm on the other end of the phone like, let me know what...