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Egregious violation of the policy, and nobody would take a room into that room, and it would be a firing offense so there is some irony of her being told that she is being fired for misconduct while she is committing misconduct. >> and sam, you spent quite a bit of time in that very situation room, and how difficult for a recording device even to get in there? >> well, i worked at the white house for four years and i can't count how many phone lists and dark hours i spent in the situation room, but there was not a phone that didn't make it in, and not because there was a security guard or stri...

American phone calls, phone lists, emails, some cases the body of the emails. that's when i have a problem with it, they variety the law. >> the only thing i style that eric is that the bad guys don't announce their plans over the internet or on their phone calls as i'm going to bomb something. what they do is they use code words. and so when you are looking for the plan, which we he have to remember that in a post 9/11 world, we have to get to them before they board the airplane. but, the guys, the good guys who are looking for this are looking for patterns. it's very difficult. we have to un...

American phone calls, phone lists, emails, some cases the body of the emails. that's when i have a problem with it, they variety the law. >> the only thing i style that eric is that the bad guys don't announce their plans over the internet or on their phone calls as i'm going to bomb something. what they do is they use code words. and so when you are looking for the plan, which we he have to remember that in a post 9/11 world, we have to get to them before they board the airplane. but, the guys, the good guys who are looking for this are looking for patterns. it's very difficult. we have to un...

Information. so again the purpose here is to discover and develop intelligence about foreign intelligence targets. that is the mission and the purpose of the various methods that the nsa employs. >> but part of what you just said, they're not interested in the private information of americans except "the washington post" says they collect the telephone numbers of americans, street addresses, business information, family information. so doesn't that contradict what you're saying? >> now they've moved on to in over important issue. we'll monitor what they say about the nsa and the latest report ...

If you want to get off the phone lists and everything else, you want to get off this crazy thing, go ahead and vote. you can't escape the television ads but you can escape the personal contacts. >> yeah. one of our producers, nick, who i call out on the air who is at home in ohio. he tuned out after a day. he said it's saturated in ohio. as you can imagine. can i ask you quickly about florida? we have 39.5% of early voters registered democrats, 45% republican. can we infer that mitt romney has the early lead there? >> boy, that's a difficult state. there's a lot of spinning going on in florida...