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Call center are increasing dramatically, the visits to the website are increasing dramatically. we're responding to popular demand. that's a good thing, it's a good thing for individuals, it's a good thing for america, it makes america stronger. >> what about this idea -- i've been hearing this, and jennifer was citing this, the people signing up for the exchanges aren't the uninsured and therefore, the entire project of the aca is ridiculous and bankrupt. >> i think she knows something right now that's unknowable. there are guesses of how many people are uninsured, we know a lot of the people...

To popular demand. that's a good thing, it's a good thing for individuals, it's a good thing for america, it makes america stronger. >> what about this idea -- i've been hearing this, and jennifer was citing this, the people signing up for the exchanges aren't the uninsured and therefore, the entire project of the aca is ridiculous and bankrupt. >> i think she knows something right now that's unknowable. there are guesses of how many people are uninsured, we know a lot of the people signing up are uninsured, we know some people are insured and finding a better deal in the marketplace, that's a...