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Voter participation not all that high in presidential elections dropped significantly in midterms. bill's right. look, if democrats believe they have it in the bag here and donald trump is able to rally the republican base around two things really, i think, at the end of the day. look what they did to brett kavanaugh. there's a war on men, okay? donald trump used that kind of language. and this idea that there is a pillaging hoard on the way to the united states, which is what he talks about. this is not dissimilar to even before this latest caravan. if you go back, don, a month, let's say, an...

>> congress is not in session. so, listen, this is what we're going to hear for -- this is the strategy. he's laying it out there, putting it right in your face. he's being boelds. the election of the caravan. we're going to hear that for the next two weeks, for the next 15 days. >> yeah, no question. look, this is a base strategy. midterm elections tend to be base wars because you see voter participation drop. voter participation not all that high in presidential elections dropped significantly in midterms. bill's right. look, if democrats believe they have it in the bag here and donald trump...