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Simon's point of why wouldn't they try in benghazi? >> well, after the benghazi attack, it didn't meet the campaign receipt iraqi that somehow that terrorism was on the run and terrorism was not the threat it once was. it didn't meet their political advancement two months before a campaign. >> megyn: what about boston? do you see the motivation as different? >> yeah. because the federal government has been embarrassed by dropping the ball on the twowe know thatr was pinged several times, and i'm using pinged because that's the language of homeland security -- when he came back and forth from c...

Intelligence service points out to you to the fbi and the cia we've got the very latest. that we believe after 2010 he's victor? >> wolf, the focus of this become a radical islamist and he investigation has shifted to a is tied to maybe unspecified former politician who's also a tae kwon do instructor, everett terrorist groups that you would want to, if you put him on a dusky. according to authorities, dusky list, that it pinged twice. befriended the father of one of it pinged when he left and the tae kwon do students. pinged when he came back. what is the use of the ping if some time they spe...

So a name like john doe could be in there 10,000 times. so tamerlan tsarnaev's name according to our sources was in that database. he also apparently was in a database called t.i.d.e. that is a classified database. and it is very important because these databases are used by the fbi, by law enforcement officials to put together the terror no-fly list. and apparently tamerlan tsarnaev's name was not on that list, but there was a notation in one of these databases that were tamerlan tsarnaev to leave the united states, that the fbi was supposed to be pinged. and apparently according to what jane...

Experience, the united states of america has no viable entry-exit system. we aren't able to track people as they leave and depart the country and when they come back in the country. sometimes we can see them and have visibility when they are traveling via air burke as we are seeing on the southwest border and up in canada, that's a real problem. when she says ping, against what? that's the key question. >> it must be when he boarded the plane using the passport. must be some manifest i would assume there's some database at that point because he didn't walk to russia. >> but senator graham is a...

Tamerlan left the country in 2012 but secretary of homeland security janet napolitano yesterday told u.s. senators that her department did. let's watch her testimony. >> was your department aware of his travels to russia, and if you weren't, the reason? >> yes, the system pinged when he was leaving the united states. by the time he returned, all investigations had been -- the matter had been closed. >> that discrepancy raised an issue for some republicans, including congressman michael mccaul, chairman of the homeland security committee. let's listen to him. >> when i was briefed by the fbi, t...