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and to extend the old ping—pong imagery, this is like the longest rally in table tennis you can possibly imagine. i've forgotten how many pings and forgotten how many pongs. the bottom line is, is that the house of lords has again glued some proposed changes, some amendments to the government's plan. the government is pretty keen to get it through without anything attached, which means it goes back to the house of commons where those proposed changes will get voted down. it'll go back to the lords again early couple of days of next week, whilst the government continues to do what it needs to do, which is a lot, to get things ready so that when this thing becomes law, gets royal assent to use the jargon, they can then start the processes that can only start at that point to try and get flights off as quickly as they possibly can, having set themselves that deadline of doing it by the end of...by spring. and i kind of reckon spring peters out by the end of may, doesn't it?

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The Rachel Maddow Show

politics and should be discussed in the same breath not only as other mass attacks but also in the same breath as the other sort of pings of activity that you have outlined. one way to think about this is that although the scheduling of the ax handle saturday moment for the trump campaign might have been erroneous we have many other incidents where trump's open embrace of this movement has not been erroneous and i could think for instance of the press conference he scheduled in waco this spring to announce his renewed campaign for 2024. waco to many people may simply signify the branch davidian siege and the sort of general antifederal government sentiment that people take from that. but to white power activists waco is a direct reference to the oklahoma city bombing. it is a call to further violence. so, you know, we can have a discussion about whether or not

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The Rachel Maddow Show

attacks as the strategy but also exists in precisely this landscape that you have just outlined where it is running into our national politics. it should be discussed in the same breath not only as other but also in the same breath as the other sort of pings of activity that you have outlined and one way to think about this is that although the scheduling of the ax handle saturday morning for the trump campaign might have been erroneous we have many other incidents where trump's open embrace of this movement has not been erroneous and i could think for instance of the press conference he scheduled in waco this spring to announces renewed campaign for 2024. waco, to many people, may simply signify the siege and sort of general anti federal government sentiment that people take from that but a

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The Rachel Maddow Show

quote-unquote, we are consuming them as if they exist without connection to each other or t ideological basis. this is how we get stories about jacksonville as something separate from christ church and pittsburgh and buffalo and a charleston. many of these attacks have not only a shared characteristics in the communities that are impacted but they are all ut carried out by white power perpetrators who are united through social ties, united ideologically, they share information about weapons and tactics and strategies and they are all working for the same purpose, which by the way is not limited only to mass attacks as a strategy but also exists in this outline you just gave wheri it is running into our national politics and should be discussed in the same breath not only as other mass attacks but also in the same breath as the other sort of pings of activity that you have outlined. one way to think about this is that although the scheduling of

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Dateline

sometime. maybe somebody picture up. >> the young attorney and fleming acquaintance olivia reager, couldn't help but hear what people were seeing. >> did she go home with someone? did she drive off somewhere? >> susie's mother was afraid something awful had happened. and for the second time she called sister karlyne, two hours away in north dakota. >> and that's when i knew something was really, really wrong. and so we packed up suitcases and headed to glendive to see what we could do to help find her. >> but where could they look? glendive is the biggest town in a sparsely populated county the size of delaware. far more hiding places than there are people. >> we had a few pings off a cell phone tower. so we had maybe a nice way of were her phone would've been last. we had horseback, four wheeler 's, airplanes, helicopters, people on foot. and nothing. >> meanwhile, they processes chevy trail blazer for any sort

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The Whole Story With Anderson Cooper

regular cell phone, which was also making pings so they were able to connect those two. so even the use of a burner found did not conceal his identity like he hoped it would. >> further investigating confirmed that over the years, heuermann frequently used burner phones to contact sex workers and as recently as may 2023, v investigators spotted him purchasing additional minutes linked to a burner cell phone. >> he is growing into the suspect because you now have a car. you have a face. you have a geographic connection but that is circumstantial. they need that thin hair of evidence that is going to go from circumstantial to certainty and the thin hair of evidence turns out to be a thin hair. >> two of those hairs apparently according to the document that we've read can be connected to his wife and one stlraight to him. >> now we're in a different place. today is the day.

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The Whole Story With Anderson Cooper

phones were pinging to an area in midtown manhattan around 5th avenue and 35th street, thereabouts, and another area in massapequa, massapequa park on long island. >> reporter: both are locations key to rex heuermann. his office in midtown manhattan and his home in massapequa park. just across the bay from the ocean parkway where the bodies of the gilgo four were discovered. >> i think the big breakthrough with the task force was the use of the cell phone records. >> reporter: nathan lentz is a professor at john jay college of criminal justice in new york city. >> that allowed them to identify the location in manhattan and the location on long island, and they were able to connect it to his cell phone pings as well. so he was using a burner phone, but in his pocket was his regular cell phone, which was also making pings. so they were able to connect those two. so even the use of a burner phone did not conceal his identity like he hoped it would. >> reporter: further investigating confirmed that over the years heuermann

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The Whole Story With Anderson Cooper

phones were pinging to an area in midtown manhattan around 5th avenue and 35th street, thereabouts, and another area in massapequa, massapequa park on long island. >> reporter: both are locations key to rex heuermann. his office in midtown manhattan and his home in massapequa park. just across the bay from the ocean parkway where the bodies of the gilgo four were discovered. >> i think the big breakthrough with the task force was the use of the cell phone records. >> reporter: nathan lents is a professor at john jay college of criminal justice in new york city. >> that allowed them to identify the location in manhattan and the location on long island, and they were able to connect it to his cell phone pings as well. so he was using a burner phone, but in his pocket was his regular cell phone, which was also making pings. so they were able to connect those two. so even the use of a burner phone did not conceal his identity like he hoped it would. >> reporter: further investigating confirmed that over the years heuermann

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CNN Newsroom Live

is where some of the cell phone signals got pings from. on the other hand, he has a public facing job. where he is very visible. dealing with architecture clients all the time. so it is hard to imagine somebody like that thinking they can stay below the radar forever. the fact that he did force so long has are being thing to do with problems with the suffolk county police, the da, institutional apathy about the case from the beginning. cooperation problems with the fbi and frankly there was a long period where there was corruption keeping the fbi out of the case. >> i wanted to ask why these women were viewed by the public as prostitutes and worthless from the beginning and what changed that perception over the years?

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Anderson Cooper 360

feeling for you now. >> oh, my gosh. look, first i'm heartbroken about what's happened here and i feel -- you know, i'm so deeply saddened for the people on board and their families. it is utterly -- >> i keep thinking about the father and son on board. it's so sad. >> it keeps reverberating through my brain. but you know -- yeah, it's -- it's horrible. >> what was communications -- were there coms in terms of like -- you couldn't talk. it was just sending a ping, is that right? to the surface. >> yeah, that's right. so you're bolted in, as i think you know. at surface level there is a beacon on board -- actually, my cell phone seemed to be working at surface. i was picking up gps signals. but as you go down, as soon as you start descending through the water column, there's no gps. and you know, radio communication becomes impossible. so there are a couple of systems. one of them is a sonar-based system. so it's sending off pings.

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