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Mike: wouldn't it wise to separate a controversial issue like immigration and government funding and a budget, it seems all are difficult enough individually for this congress to do. your thoughts, sir? >> well, i mean, we can separate it. we can put the daca bill on the floor on tuesday. and get it done. and basecle i -- basically set that aside and don't have to conflate these issues. there's a moment when the budget bills come up. democrats-- the republicans don't have the vote to keep the government open. when democrats are asked to rescue the republicans from themselves by providing enoug...

Plan, you know, essentially it would shift, it would do away with the diversity lottery which is a random lottery program and it would shift some of those 50,000 slots over to the tps program which is the countries like haiti, el salvador. temporary protective status, and the president said, well, let's not deal with those countries, why can't we make this all about merit and, remember, these were comments that he made two days earlier in the televised meeting in the white house who said who would disagree with bringing in people based on -- on a merit system and so this is something that the ...

Get democrats that vote for some things, to get some things across the finish line, what about the timing and what about the week ahead. >> i still think we are going to get through. i don't believe they'll be a shut down. >> i hope you're correct. i hope that there isn't a shutdown. we shouldn't be politicizing the -- the economy and the health of the american workers and that's federal workers and private workers that will be affected by government shutdown. we shouldn't be doing that. we shouldn't be holding people hostage and i do believe daca, if democrats want to work in good faith there...

Dream only piece of legislation now. and in a statement yesterday, she said, quote, in october, the president wrongly decided to terminate daca. since that time. the president has constantly said he supports daca. what is clear is it that we must insist on a clean dream act, which is supported overwhelmingly by the american people, has bipartisan support in congress and must be enacted in january. but that doesn't sit well with republicans who wants border security or those who want to end chain migration. or those who don't want legal status for young, illegal immigrants. >> some of these peo...

This morning, 30-something degrees. all of us have a little frog in our throat. gillian: thanks, adam. you're the best. mike: authorities say the same russian hackers who targeted the dnc are back. who they're probing for information now. the clock is ticking for lawmakers to reach a deal on daca and immigration. how their lack of progress is resonating with voters.