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On too long. two years, five years? do we do it indefinitely? the federal government is running on dollars, 42 cents of which are borrowed. if the states have to take cuts because the federal government can no longer hand out checks to them that are borrowed money it's a healthy thing for the states to do. 49 of the 50 states have constitutions that require them to have a balanced budget. i feel for the people who are unemployed. we can't hav unemployment payment go on indefinitely. julie: leslie, what do you say about that? >> you are making black friday bleark. what do we tell the kids about...

I followed polls my whole life i have never seen one that bad. >> that is something. that was at the new york times editorial board. >> it is interesting to watch, though, you have howard dean say the democrats need a spinal transplant. he is calling his party a bunch of wimps he has pressure from the left they think he is not liberal enough that he is cap pit lating on the war and the economy. >> i so hope he listens to them. follow everything daily cause and howard dean says. go all of the way with this socialist stuff. >> some of them i think are being utterly disingenuous senator rockefell...