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Get that? [laughter] >> jessica: she just didn't like it. >> greg: when did he not know and when did he not know it? you never know! >> jessica: that's the funny part. [laughter] >> jesse: that's his m.o., plausible deniability's. even the french no. when kerry said biden did not get it, they said "you are probably right." takes the sting out of them losing that deal. you know john kerry thought he should have been president. when he was in the senate with joe biden -- kerry thinks "this guy just doesn't know here," and it slips. he did not throw him under the yacht. this is the biggest allian...

Said reconciliation may be falling down the list of priorities. what's the sense in terms of how the white house approaches that. we know that president biden has put so much on this. we heard from him last night in california, again, talking about the need for this, including climate change as he toured wildfires in idaho and california. what's the timeline now? if it slips, when might we see it being taken up? >> jon, those are two questions we could see in late october, november, december. i think those are completely legitimate timelines. the white house has been mostly hands off here. the...