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Famous. americans feel like they will do anything to get out of debt. the two biggest debts. education debt and health care debt. how does the president's plan address either of those two going forward? >> well, education, it makes community college free. if you're $40,000, $50,000, and you want to get a credit toengs better your life torsion get a new opportunity, now do you know so and you don't have to go into debt to do it. and it makes preschool free so if you have young kids, you don't have to pay an arm and a leg to give them a fair shot so they're not behind starting in kindergarten an...

Let me go back to your point about the unsustainability of the current system and why it must be changed. if you're getting medicare right now you have put in on average $119,000 over your lifetime. over your lifetime to come you will takeout $357,000. it's about three to one. obviously unsustainable. does paul ryan's plan address that lack of sustainability? he yes it does. the government in the future could control the amount that it gives back to seniors for them to go out and buy their own private insurance from competing insurance companies. so there is an element of control in there, plu...