And how did mitch mcconnell keep most of the republicans on board? >> again, because, obviously the republicans cannot go into the 2012 elections and be silent on medicare and it's interesting, paul, though, more republican senators voted against ryan's plan than they did in the house and that just shows you the vast philosophical gulf between them in the house and the senate. >> obama's plan budget came up for a vote and they got zero, 97-0. . >> well, obama doesn't have a plan and i think that would expect what is exposed. >> thank you, we have to take one more break. when we come back, hits...