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Have testified before the committee and you can imagine how they feel because they understand the jeopardy that pence was placed in because of the position that he took. but the position that he took was the constitutional position, the responsibility he met was the responsibility he was assigned by the constitution and with the story that is evolving here says is that donald trump lost the election and knew he lost the election. he lost in court again and again and again, 61 or 62 court cases. and when that failed, he went to plan c, which was to get the vice president to turn away these elec...

Easy thing to control, so although there are logistical improvements in there are logistical improvements in the pentagon has pointed to that presumably there is still hope in the ukrainian side that this will be a very difficult operation for them to run. ~ , , ., , a very difficult operation for them torun. , ,, to run. absolutely it will, because the ukrainian _ to run. absolutely it will, because the ukrainian army... _ to run. absolutely it will, because the ukrainian army... i _ to run. absolutely it will, because the ukrainian army... i don't - to run. absolutely it will, because the uk...

On the repression right now. >> are you watching for in terms of where this was going. can you go the way that you're going that you can hold off. it was very striking to me. we are a day after day after day after day that young man that matt bradley talked to whose mom stay behind who was so certain that ukraine would triumph in the end. absolutely chris. and, look russia's plan fails to take the city. their plan b failed which was to bomb the cities into submission. so now they're on the plan c. which is basically the veterans of the donbas. the position applies helicopters, materials close ...

Point, everybody passed on this deal. there's one guy that can do it, who wants to do it, it's him. and the media doesn't like him because he's a free speech absolutist. he -- i think he would put donald trump back on the platform in a millisecond and a lot of others. until be a different platform. it wouldn't be the uber-woke regulatory platform that it is now, and this has a lot of georgeists annoyed -- journalists annoyed. and, by the way, tough luck. if he wants this, howie, i do, unless he's done something really wrong, it's his. he's got to want it though. howard: right. and by the e way...

He seems to believe on social media anything goes for democracy to survive, we need more content moderation, not less. >> well, musk is acknowledged there have to be some lines drawn. look, he is many things. is he brilliant, impulsive, erratic and a man on a mission. he is a free speech crusader who is angry at twitter over its bias against conservatives exhibit a the donald trump ban and after that head fake about joining the board, i'm not buying that musk is just going to quietly walk away if the company rejects this bid that he says is final. maybe is he trying to save democracy. maybe he...