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Hands of the right people and not in the pockets of workers and that is snag will change. >> certainly something that will be tied to mitch daniels bumper for the rest of his career like a tin can. if they pick him for vice president, what happened today will happen coast-to-coast. >> union buster is a term that sticks with you. >> scott pelath, thank you for taking the time to talk to us, i know it was a tough day for you, thanks for being with us. >> thank you, rachel. right after the show, on the last word, lawrence o'donnell has a funny show, plus the details on the new conservative swip...

Hands of the right people and not in the pockets of workers and that is snag will change. >> certainly something that will be tied to mitch daniels bumper for the rest of his career like a tin can. if they pick him for vice president, what happened today will happen coast-to-coast. >> union buster is a term that sticks with you. >> scott pelath, thank you for taking the time to talk to us, i know it was a tough day for you, thanks for being with us. >> thank you, rachel. right after the show, on the last word, lawrence o'donnell has a funny show, plus the details on the new conservative swip...

Roll backed to the environmental protect agency. they did score a small victory over the federal funding of abortions. one portion prevejts them using funds on abortion services in the capitol only. now, that drew demonstrations on the hill yesterday where d.c. mayor vincent gray and 40 other protesters were arrested, that part of the battle. i think the next battle and all on the showdown. pat buchanan, on this abortion issue, doesn't it already outlaw federal funding for abortion? why did we have this debate during the government shutdown? >> it's the local money. >> okay. but, again, thou...