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Terms of advertising, knowing who his people are. they are just going to carpet bomb rick perry with this stuff from state to state and top to bottom. >> the question started with the msnbc debate when perry got in. was how is perry going to do? he has not had to do. debating in his career in texas. he has managed to get elected without doing a lot of debating. is he getting better? he's done three of these things. i'm not seeing very much of a step up from one to the next. >> no. and i think there is a genuine plateauing effect that we're seeing. and i think that's counter posed against mitt ...

Bomb rick perry with this stuff from state to state and top to bottom. >> the question started with the msnbc debate when perry got in. was how is perry going to do? he has not had to do. debating in his career in texas. he has managed to get elected without doing a lot of debating. is he getting better? he's done three of these things. i'm not seeing very much of a step up from one to the next. >> no. and i think there is a genuine plateauing effect that we're seeing. and i think that's counter posed against mitt romney who clearly has improved. in every respect as a candidate. >> this is one...