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That was the truth, but it was an extraordinary tweet. >> no, and harry, it does raise this issue, right, which is, again, the personal nature that phil alludes to, the notion that trump himself was involved in these discussions. it seems to me that one of the things you would do. you said he's the worst client in the world but if you wanted to maintain a certain amount of plausib plausible deniability, you could say i don't know what my lawyers are doing, they may have talked about pardons with these folks, i personally the president of the united states would never get involved in this. trum...

E-mails, and then releasing and staging the release of those documents right through the campaign. you can take everything that's in these documents and fit that right in. it's clear from the cohen papers, from the special counsel that there was a conspiracy and contact with the russians. it's clear also from the flynn plea and his cooperation that he's testifying to that. and so if you take it right from step one, right from the time when -- if you take it back to november, i mean, that's roger stone, supposedly got fired by trump and he goes under cover to work in a situation, of plausible d...

Plea and his cooperation that he's testifying to that. and so if you take it right from step one, right from the time when -- if you take it back to november, i mean, that's roger stone, supposedly got fired by trump and he goes under cover to work in a situation, of plausible deniability, to have nothing to do with the campaign. but yet he's the only person in america that speaks to the russian operative who releases the first of the stolen documents. and happens to also speak to julian assange, who is releasing the rest of the documents. but it all goes through to trump tower where don jr. g...

In these documents and fit that right in. it's clear from the cohen papers, from the special counsel that there was a conspiracy and contact with the russians. it's clear also from the flynn plea and his cooperation that he's testifying to that. and so if you take it right from step one, right from the time when -- if you take it back to november, i mean, that's roger stone, supposedly got fired by trump and he goes under cover to work in a situation, of plausible deniability, to have nothing to do with the campaign. but yet he's the only person in america that speaks to the russian operative ...

Chanting of lock her up. you're right, that's not what we expect of individuals. first of all, those who wore a uniform, secondly, those who are part of a process, an electoral process that is supposed to maintain some degree of decorum and calling for the former secretary of state to be locked up, you know, absent the type of process, again, that we expect -- >> a process, how about a crime and how about an indictment, how about some treen say, lock her up, except you don't like her and you're running against her. >> well, they're point, to the e-mail issue. >> i know. let me ask you about th...