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>> you can have a left wing argument about this but these are serious investigations and when you start pulling in allegations against the president of the united states that have absolutely no founding whatsoever, you are doing yourself a disservice and -- >> julie: you know who is a lawyer? stop. >> the law is the law of the land. >> julie: fine. >> you are embarrassing yourself. >> where is your understanding of the law and how an investigation works? >> julie: hold on a second. trey gowdy, congressman, the lawyer, he actually spoke about this f.b.i. official kicked off of the mueller probe...

Barack obama, george w. bush, bill clinton, george h.w. bush, ronald reagan, jimmy carter, richard nixon, lyndon johnson, these are all men who walked into the oval office and understood from moment one that when they sit in that chair, they come second, if not last before the people of this country, the dignity of the office. and this is a president who couldn't care less about the dignity of the office or, by and large, realizing that he is a leader of a nation. and that they are looking to him for leadership, for comfort, for empathy. he can't give them any of those things. what we're seein...

He was a key foreign policy adviser to the trump campaign. and candidate trump. and george papadopolous was in the foreign policy spear, we just don't know, that is why this is so important. >> there's been some reporting out of the white house. reportedly, there's a background saying paul manafort was a bad guy when he got here and a bad guy when he left, which is an interesting suggestion of the defense that sarah huckabee sanders could say, we thought he was bad from the beginning. >> if he was bad from the beginning, why did donald trump say this? play it. >> and paul manafort has done an ...

Allegation came out, it was, it was note worthy to see andrea mitchell from nbc news, her tweet and reaction to the allegations against him. she writes, mrs. bush was at his side. he is in a wheelchair with parkinson's syndrome, really, someone should be ashamed. and it isn't 41. andrea mitchell is a distinguished journalist, what happens when somebody with that kind of platform dismisses the accusers? >> she's reflecting the awkwardness and the tension in the george h.w. bush allegations. i am not at all trying to down play it, but there is a spectrum here, there is a scale, and there are dif...

Yeah, that's to reassure primarily mom that it's okay to let little jaunlny play football. and all the wonderful -- let's pack a picnic lunch and go out and tailgate, all of which is true, except for the fact that some people who play it an alarming percentage of those who play it, especially if you play it long enough, if you start early enough and play it long enough through college and nfl, an alarming percentage of them will wind up at some point not knowing what day it is. >> if moms say no, it will dramatically change who plays football in the future. it will be an escape path, perhaps, ...