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And democrats are going to try very hard. this is true comey questioning, as well. and, listen, how much do our intelligence officials defer and say there's an active investigation. at the end of the day, though, all of this is going to lead to getting the president of the united states under oath and democrats taking the house. those are the two triggers. let's not over play it, i think we'll see our intelligence chiefs defer a little bit and say there's an active investigation, we'll defer on issues. >> before we go, you've done hearings like this how to approach the subject when the witness...

Interview the president gave, then i'll ask you the legal significance. play it. >> we had a very nice dinner and at that time he told me you are not under investigation, which i knew anyway. during the phone call he said it, during another phone call he said it. he said it once at dinner and then he said it twice during phone calls. >> did you ask him am i under investigation? >> i actually asked him, yes. i said if it's possible, would you let me know am i under investigation. he said you are not under investigation. >> dean ruger, of what significance is that interview? >> i think that's hi...

The leak. what is worrying them so much. >> a final point. i live in a bubble. i live and work in philly, i am in new york and d.c. it is a big country. listen to one caller to my radio program this week on all your coverage which i was praising. play it. >> i am a hell of a lot smarter than most of these nitwits working "new york times" or "the washington post." i believe people that are in the room that hear what was said and don't take false stories lightly. >> i think we're in a golden age of journalism. this is woodward, bernstein kind of stuff that you're doing, the post is doing, cnn is...

In new york and d.c. it is a big country. listen to one caller to my radio program this week on all your coverage which i was praising. play it. >> i am a hell of a lot smarter than most of these nitwits you got working at the "new york times" and "the washington post." i believe people that are in the room that hear what was said and don't take false stories lightly. >> i think we're in a golden age of journalism. this is woodward, bernstein kind of stuff that you're doing, the post is doing, cnn is doing. what do you say to that caller who is not buying any of it? >> i wish i could sit down ...

Flynn may have lied about innocent conduct, which raises a real question mark, why did he do that? it's clear that he didn't tell the truth to white house officials and that's the reason they gave for firing him. but what actually was the conduct at the bottom of this is unclear. >> bill: context of relationship. he was fired by president obama and went public against preponderance obama's policies. he was an early disciple of donald trump as a candidate. these guys were close. they were tight, byron. >> the president clearly valued flynn's loyalty. donald trump didn't have that many big time ...