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Know quite what to do. play the radio, make sure the television -- excuse me. make sure you have the record player on at night, make sure the kids hear words. bill: hard to overrook that. >> yeah. i know the record player comment certainly attracted attention. more broadly, i think that answer has raised questions and conversation about, you know, the muddled answers that the vice president has given at times in these debates although in this debate at many moments he did turn in a stronger performance than other nights. but i think also he pulled back more broadly, despite a lot of questions ...

Where he screws up words a lot -- bill: do you think there's a change in anything? yes or no. >> i think actually the middle tier candidate did very well, cory, kamala, klobuchar, beto. bill: another debate in october. katie, go ahead. >> correct. but if you're going to compare joe biden to donald trump, joe biden's big selling point is that he knows what he's doing. he has experience, and yet he's not showing that when he confuses these answers. and i just want to get back to the record player comment. it's kind of funny to think this is about aging and he is not with the hip, new technology ...

Core democratic voters. namely in this case african-americans. it's a sweet spot. obviously it's a bitter and just horrific commemoration. but it's a sweet spot in that he's very good at prepared and large thematic speeches. he's very much at home in grief settings, in ceremonial settings. and as we said before, african-americans are a very, very, you know, formative and powerful and loyal part of the base that's made his support so far and his lead in the polls so enduring. >> and you said south carolina yesterday. i think you meant south carolina today. biden's speech yesterday was in alabam...

Joe biden to donald trump, joe second amendment. bill: so mitch mcconnell wants to nope what the president will biden's big selling point is support. that he knows what he's doing. has he made a decision on that? >> the president has been he has experience, and yet he's actively engaged on the second not showing that when he amendment issue the entire time confuses these answers. and i just want to get back to the record player comment. and particularly after the mass it's kind of funny to think this shootings in el paso and dayton and then, of course, to odessa is about aging and he is not af...

And again from day one. bill: was that fair game, josh? i've been there from day one, >> well, look, it ended up to be and the fact that what the a little bit of a cheap shot, president just described is part but castro's obviously trying to of a transparency and capitalize on vice president accountability that he allows biden's biggest liability which himself as president and is, you know, most democratic commander in chief every single party at this point don't know day. we've never had a president so if they should call in a silver accessible to the press and, alert. indeed, the public, bil...