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Ladies of you. and so that they have to take a different way. and you would say you should never take that way? >> i'm not saying you should never take that way but what is better? i mean. >> bill: better would be, you know, to be a ph.d. in polyscience. >> we make the case that muslims suppress women by making them wear burkas to please women? what is different about western women taking off everything to policemen in the same way? >> i would object because that's the pressure of our society that says you are north as good unless you are a female of this sort of sexual kind of display. >> for...

You and i both know they love the politics of hate. they love to smear. they love to kind of paint their political opponents as someone other than them or other than what they think americans want to be. and i think that the american people just need to not fall for it. >> what do you make of the publishing of her picture of her playing softball in the "wall street journal?" when i first saw that i thought that was pretty average american right there. there are a lot of young people that play softball. not to mention it kind of told me she must be a competitor, then of course i wanted to know ...

>> bill: playing softball. >> pictures of these girls in the future, no matter what they choose to do. >> bill: i don't know if any of them are going to be supreme court justices though. >> some of them i'm sure want to be lawyers, want to be doctors. i met a lot of girls that were high esteemers in this program. >> bill: you agree the kind of exposition that the pageant is using to promote the program sunday night is harmful to american women in general. >> i think it's harmful to young women. if you ask a 13-year-old girl today who would you rather look like elena kagan and woman on those ph...

Witnesses, spreading the word, looking for converts. they avoid politics. although he is not considered a radical movement, counter-terrorism officials point out its members passion can make some of them vulnerable to radical recruiters. brian neal vinas had unwittingly taken another step on his path to al qaeda. >> you could see it in his face, his eyes, he was more focused, more happy, more outgoing. there was no more playing softball, doing this and that. there was more praying. >> reporter: but his vulnerability, plus his eagerness to absorb islam drew him into a new and more radical circl...

Does that matter? >> no. >> willie geist? >> it doesn't matter to me, but i have to say, i agree with pat a little bit. the photograph there has undercurrents, implications. >> about the sunbathe sfg. >> yes, i want to go sunbathing with pat. but there are implications of an old photograph of her playing softball. i believe there's a message. i hate to contradict you. >> no, no, no. >> pat buchanan, you've talked about a generational divide on gay marriage, on gays, lesbians. do you think, just politically, put on your political hat here, that if she were a lesbian, that americans would care? ...