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Both have been in saudi arabia and i have not. don't know i'm going any time soon. i couldn't pre-judge a whole region. >> you'd like it. you may not find it totally comfortable. >> maybe part of it. i'm sure i wouldn't like the way the government plays ball. certainly the way they kill journalists. before we get to that, walk us through new reporting tonight. most people who heard this story even if you don't get all the details say wow. who thinks they will get away with trying to thuggishly take out and intimidate the richest man in the world? these cats. why? >> because they have been doin...

I'm sure i wouldn't like the way the government plays ball. certainly the way they kill journalists. before we get to that, walk us through new reporting tonight. most people who heard this story even if you don't get all the details say wow. who thinks they will get away with trying to thuggishly take out and intimidate the richest man in the world? these cats. why? >> because they have been doing it for decades. we talked to two private es investigators today. both are colorful characters. one is a former porn star turned private investigator. the other guy got a joint for a gambling operati...

>> we didn't get married if it wasn't for giuliani. we met on -- >> we met on his presidential campaign. look, rudy always had a streak of fatalism. there is no question this chapter has diminished his legacy. >> it is of representing donald trump. >> he has done it to represent his client aggressively in the court of public opinion. really in contrast the mayor who believed the laws about the truth. it's not how donald trump plays ball. he tried to defend his client. the problem is loyalty is a one-way streak. if you think about the gap and stature between the two when he was major, the work ...

For him anymore. no one else has that power except for trump. >> there is a break in case of emergency option and you have to believe that mueller is talking to the new york attorney general's office, talking to other local prosecutors who have jurisdiction to make sure there's a backstop against any trump pardon. >> the federal government plays ball. i don't think trump is worried about the new york -- that's right. there's also news concerning the trump tower meeting. remember the russians in june of 2016? and what the president may have known as a candidate. according to "the new york times...

Breaking with the president on the saudi thing, is not breaking with them on this one. >> and he's claiming that scalia said this -- he's failing to recognize the unique threat this president poses to the constitution itself, to undermining the rule of law, to so many of the things he's doing where he's trying to really take onto himself powers he should not have. >> isn't that one of the prized principles of the party? >> the republican party principles like fighting a deficit and states' rights, like basic integrity in government. what we need is republicans to stand up. >> meanwhile, two ke...