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>> i'd start with the hush money payments shimon mentioned. he was convicted of that, he said in court he did it with the direction of the president. i then go to his testimony before the senate about the moscow project. and again if you look at the plea documents there, doj said he did this in coordination with others. >> and at the direction of or -- >> who are they? is it the president? we don't know. he had the buzzfeed story that was then sort of rebutted. but who? somebody. i'd go to the inaugural. he made a recording of one of the people involved in the inauguration. those are three sor...

Cohen will also be asked about his own false statements during his prior testimony on the hill. one important note, he will not publicly discuss any issue related to russia. cohen is saying -- or rather saving that for discussions behind closed doors both to the house and senate intelligence committees. i want to bring in ken dilanian and garrett hague. ken, let me begin with you. i just laid out some of the issues that cohen has agreed to discuss in open session. what are you anticipating that we are going to hear and more importantly what we could learn in some of the closed sessions as well...

Trump had not been telling the truth about that deal when he said he had no dealings, no investment in the russia because in fact there was a meeting according to the plea documents in which cohen and trump discussed company mean outreach to vladimir putin's government. so that will come up behind closed doors and of course the whole issue, it has long been alleged that michael cohen had meetings with russians during the campaign about election interference, he has always denied that, so you can bet ghatities will get to the bottom of that. but in open session, this prime ministers to be a ver...

And nurse it's another closed session, this time with the house intelligence committee. ken dilanian, you have new reporting on what kind of testimony we can expect from cohen and also what else prosecutors have learned from him in recent weeks. tem us about it. >> well, mika, so before the house and senate intelligence committees, he's expected to address, first of all, his lies to those committees on the timing of the trump tower and moscow deal, the fact in a it was going on much longer than he admitted in public and much longer than donald trump ak naj knowledged. michael cohen in the plea...

The united states. so every -- every subtle threat that he makes, every insinuation has all that much more power and force. it stands to reason. we don't know but to the extent that there's a mueller report and if it becomes public, i can't imagine this pattern of behavior isn't going to be addressed, this pattern of denouncing the department of justice, of seeking to intimidate witnesses, seeking to influence the proceeding. i want to go back to what matt was saying about the lies around trump tower. this is one of those things regardless of why they lied, why he lied, it's a huge deal. this ...