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Process works. that's not being a spy. it is conveying information to help law enforcement do its job. he knows very well how those roles work because he was one himself. i think it is -- i think it is worth pausing right now and taking a 35,000-foot look at what this means about good government and the rule of law and the extent to which these things pollute that plo ses. >> t process. >> tim, put you on hold. here is the president. >> -- deputy secretary of defense, patrick shanahan. under secretary of the navy, thomas modely. thank you, thomas. va secretary nominee, doing a fantastic job fo...

But in both instances, she hands it to them on a piece of paper. she doesn't explain the law to them. >> there's no excuse for misstating the law at such an unfortunate time in front of the critical witness. nor can it be justified that there was an ambiguous attempt to correct the misstatement toward the very end. and i think what this illustrates, and i want to get back to the point that john just made is that the federal lo ses should take a very independent look at these facts, not relying on the grand jury determination in the state and local process. because as we've seen, there were man...