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This renewal that you are calling for the party, republicans did that after romney loss, and there was this autopsy. >> no, no, no. >> and then, elected donald trump. >> well, i guess they were wrong about that. they renewed in the wrong direction. >> yeah. >> in some ways, i mean, donald trump was radically different from automatic other 15 candidates he stood up on that stage against. >> sure. >> he did catalyze in the elec electorate, and frankly it was previous democrats and republicans. donald trump has shown himself to be since then, particularly after january 6th, somebody who doesn't c...

Every single candidate who threw their arms around donald trump and their conspiracy theories and the lies about the 2020 election has lost, and that really, especially in a time where social media has proliferated lies, voters have been able to discern what's real and what's not, and have made their views known, and that is an enormous thing for me as a republican who is somebody who does not support the liar who was the former president and wants the party to refresh and renew and move forward with substantive policy solution to the problems that americans face. >> preach. >> this is fabulou...

They will come. >> absolutely. you know, i think that was part of the reason of what actually drove black voters, that it was actually insulting that the republicans thought all they had to do was find somebody, pluck a man -- a black man who had been an athlete, popular in his heyday, and that would be fine. in the midterms, they planted this narrative that black men were disenchanted with the democratic party, and i think they thought that those two parties were going to lead to two people voting for herschel walker and that, in fact, he would actually hold black voters to the ticket and we ...