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Is that is in some ways the least repped one and one donald trump helped to tap into. >> i don't know if you remember this but you and i did an event a long time ago, maybe ten years ago where we were talking about how yes, the terrifying person who could come along in american politics would be the person who is keconomically progressive bu socially reactionary. and donald trump i don't think has been economically progressive. it's so bizarre to me because these are obviously intelligent people. he can obviously afford decent po polling, but it's just where does that come from? i was there in...

Talk about the unprecedented nature of this particular set of debates and the difficulty that candidates have to have in preparing for it. >> yeah, well, you just put your finger on it exactly. no one has ever seen anything like this before. and largely, that's just because there are so many candidates, there are, of course, maybe two dozen legitimate candidates running for president right now on the democratic side. 20 of them will make the debate stage. and there will be two different nights of debates, which makes it extremely difficult for anyone to know what they're going to be able to do...

Least not to me, wolf. they did not want to be talking about this during the past week. they wanted to focus on the closing argument, close with a positive message. hillary clinton's case for why she should be president. not defending her and defending the state department over this issue. it was really a detour that none of them wanted. so they are trying to forge ahead during these last two days of the election. trying to refocus the campaign on what they wanted to be focused on for the past week in the first place. frankly, it's better for them. we've seen this reflected in the po polling. ...

Dressing up their same old platform in a brand new coat and tails. i thought we were going to get extreme makeover uncut gop and instead this seems like c-span reruns of ralph reid's greatest hits. >> absolutely right. to put it into historical concept, they're looking for next ronald reagan or charleton heston but they're stuck with bedtime for bonzo. the reality is this, the republic chance in two measures are out of step. first of all, the polling that indicates 53% of american people are behind gay marriage, that a man and a man or a woman and a woman should be able to marry each other and...