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Transcripts For BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240705



jonathan shapiro, better known by the pen name zapiro, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. well, it s a great pleasure to meet you, and i want to begin with something you said a few years ago. you said, moral outrage is what drives a cartoonist. you ve been at this cartooning for pretty much four decades. can you maintain outrage for four decades? you can. laughter when i was doing five or six cartoons a week, i would sometimes wonder what the hell i m going to do today, and you wake up in the morning and the news itjust keeps coming. it would happen to cartoonists everywhere in the world because that s what drives all of us, i m sure. anyone who takes this craft, or this genre of communication seriously. but in a place like south africa, the news just hits you from every angle every day at an unbelievable rate. i wonder whether there s something personal about this outrage, which clearly developed quite young in you. you had a lot of trauma in your family, in your life ....

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Transcripts For BBCNEWS Review 20240705



spent time living in the garden, only being allowed to enter the house to wash the floor every day. # these are dangerous days. # to say what you feel is to dig your own grave. fight the real enemy. people say it derailed my career. but i think it re railed my career, because i didn t want to be a pop star. # so happy christmas. # i love you, baby. # i can see. it s true i m out of it most of the time, but i can write songs when i m out of it. in fact, it s easier for me. # ..singing galway bay. # and the bells are ringing out for christmas day. #je t aime. #je t aime, oui, je t aime. the vatican and the bbc banned it just because of the heavy breathing without realising the beauty of serge s text, which was i love you, nor do i. # oui, je t aime. # moi non plus. wouldn t it be wonderful if there were no more goodbyes? you re wealthy, good looking, intelligent, charming. i should have known better than to get mixed up with someone like that. you re not making any sens ....

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Transcripts For BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240705



to laugh at itself? jonathan shapiro, better known by the pen name zapiro, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. well, it s a great pleasure to meet you, and i want to begin with something you said a few years ago. you said, moral outrage is what drives a cartoonist. you ve been at this cartooning for pretty much four decades. can you maintain outrage for four decades? you can. laughter when i was doing five or six cartoons a week, i would sometimes wonder what the hell i m going to do today, and you wake up in the morning and the news itjust keeps coming. it would happen to cartoonists everywhere in the world because that s what drives all of us, i m sure. anyone who takes this craft, or this genre of communication seriously. but in a place like south africa, the news just hits you from every angle every day at an unbelievable rate. i wonder whether there s something personal about this outrage, which clearly developed quite young in you. you had a lot of trauma in your ....

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Transcripts For BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240705

today isjonathan shapiro, best known by his pen name zapiro. he is south africa s most prominent and controversial political cartoonist. so amid all of its troubles, is south africa able to laugh at itself? jonathan shapiro, better known by your pen name zapiro, welcome to hardtalk. it is a great pleasure to meet you and i want to begin with something you said a few years ago, you said moral outrage is what drives a cartoonist. you have been at this cartooning for four decades. can you maintain outrage forfour four decades. can you maintain outrage for four decades? you can. outrage for four decades? you can- when outrage for four decades? you can- when i outrage for four decades? you can. when i was outrage for four decades? 7m. can. when i was doing outrage for four decades? 7m, can. when i was doing five or six cartoons a week i would sometimes wonder what the hell they do today and you wake up in the morning and the news just keeps coming. it would happen to cartoon ....

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Transcripts For MSNBCW Morning 20240705



my brother need not be idealized or enlarged in death beyond what he was in life. to be remembered simply as a good and decent man who saw wrong and tried to right it, saw suffering and tried to heal it, saw war and tried to stop it. those of us who loved him and will take him to his rest today pray that what he was to us and what he wished for others will some day come to pass for all the world. as he said many times in many parts of this nation to those he touched and who sought to touch him, some men see things as they are and say why, i dream things that never were and say why not. that was senator ted kennedy at the funeral of his brother bobby. second funeral he would have to mark and today is june 6th. david ignatius, two monumental things happened on this day, of course, the assassination and the death the assassination and the death of bobby kennedy on june 6th, 1968, a day that really marked in many ways a low point, the chaos of the 1960s and i must say a ....

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