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Get their attention. how are they really seriously considering something like this? >> i don't think so. i think what actually is happening is, the armed forces, i think, quietly are preparing for war. clearly that's a potential outcome, certainly if the north koreans miscalculate and do some gross provocation, fire 100 artillery rounds into downtown seoul, something of that nature, i think we would end up in an immediate war. but most of this is background movements by the armed forces to enhance diplomacy, which i don't think is going to work. so again i think the problem is we're going to e...

He seems to be very activist. >> that is his point andrea. he wants to present himself as a president who is ready to finish strong and remembers that reagan finishes strong and clinton finishes strong and he wants to finish strong despite of the devastating defeat in his party blamed on him in the mid-term elections. we saw president obama move forward on immigration and we saw him move forward on cuba. aside from the individual actions which as he said are things he wants to do he got past the things he feels he had to do. he wants to create a sense of a presidency that is not over yet. >> t...