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china. erin? >> will ripley thank you very much for that amazing report. thank you for joining us. anderson is now. one for the history books tonight. former vice president mike pence testified today before the federal grand jury investigating the former president's actions surrounding the january 6th riot and attempts to overturn the 2020 election. i'm john berman in for anderson. just pause and listen to that again. a former vice president just testified in an investigation about whether a president, his running mate illegally tried to overturn an election. so much has happened t...

Parameters here that a federal judge had stipulated before mike pence testified. he had to testify about his conversations. but he theoretically still had some protections because of the speech or debate clause. >> constitutional scholars. >> speech or debate clause. how would that work during these five hours potentially? >> so mike pence did win himself a narrow victory before he testified, which is he does not have to testify under that speech or debate clause about his role as president of the senate when he was vice president. the way i think that would work is basically if he is asked a ...