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>> it's like a large fanny pack we wear during abandon ship. >> i can go home and tell people i drove that aircraft carrier. i got us from paint a to point b and i was there during hurricane relief for irma. we'll go to the star board deck and you'll learn one of our small tasks, preserving the ship. we have the saltwater coming on board and it is always causing a problem and we have metal here and we need to take care of it and preserve it. >> i'm on the deck of the carrier called the catapult. this system was my ride off when i was flying f-18s. today they'll have me drop a plate in it, clea...

Years of covering border immigration from four different states and i asked how can i help they said they wanted more roads built along the border so we can get them to point a to point b to apprehend with more technology and we want tunnel detection equipment because there are tons of tunnels. they never asked for wall. steve: sorry, but why can't we have that as well as? >> it's such a big item in a big high ticket item that it sucks the air out of the room and you never get to the other things and that's mainly the concern. what i hear from border patrol is if you build a wall it becomes a ...

Security so what i did in 30 years of covering border immigration from four different states and i asked how can i help they said they wanted more roads built along the border so we can get them to point a to point b to apprehend with more technology and we want tunnel detection equipment because there are tons of tunnels. they never asked for wall. steve: sorry, but why can't we have that as well as? >> it's such a big item in a big high ticket item that it sucks the air out of the room and you never get to the other things and that's mainly the concern. what i hear from border patrol is if y...

Totally chaotic environment where there is no trust partly because i think there's no shared conviction about why they're there except that they would all like to be there. i think one of the true things the president said recently is everybody wants a piece of the west wing. which is such an elegant formulation. everybody wants a piece of the white house. but there is something to that. but what brings people together in effective white houses. obviously there's always personal ambition. obviously there's the personal interests as well. but the great ones have also actually wanted to do somet...

Within the hour, he has a a state of the union speech to work on and immigration policy to roll out that's taking heat from both sides, not to mention the prospect of another government shutdown within the next couple of weeks. of course there's a story that always seems to come back at the wrong time. the russia investigation. the president might have wished he had stayed in switzerland longer. >> jim, thank you very much. joining us now, congressman reuben guyago. congressman, thanks for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> how strong is the case for obstruction of justice? >> at this ...