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Sellers. let me say this story, the idea of an insurance executive who literally provides resources to a local police department. >> caught with the camera that caught him, i'm not exaggerating. >> can do this ride-along get some training. whoa. >> what? >> what are we talking about here? >> what's your question? >> because honestly, that does feel like a safari. >> it's a hobby. >> my point being, to go back to khalil's point, we can't just make this as an individual -- like this is some individual bad guy. this is a system that allows all of this to be possible. >> i agree. it feels like a c...

Thing zblps your point being, if you are going to defeat hillary clinton, you better have a heck of an organization a bunch of money, a bunch of funders willing to back you. it's not like somebody happens to be there and the ball's fumbled and they pick it up. >> as you point out. the lack of a primary means it's hard for the party to get her on the record on stuff that they care about. the only hope is that she'll be good on the issues if you're a democrat, a centrist or a liberal. >> and primaries have the base of the party and members of the party exerting some control over what the party's...

You have to organize. warren is not doing any of those things. >> your point being, if you are going to defeat hillary clinton, you better have a heck of an organization, a bunch of money, a bunch of funders willing to back you. it's not like somebody happens to be there and the ball's fumbled and they pick it up. >> as you point out. the lack of a primary means it's hard for the party to get her on the record on stuff that they care about. the only hope is that she'll be good on the issues if you're a democrat, a centrist, or a liberal. >> and primaries have the base of the party and members ...

Whether you're the president of the united states or the mayor of the city, that it's incumbent upon you to do what? >> the first thing you do is to uphold the idea that we're a nation of law, and that we don't react because of what we think, what we feel, what we believe, but the facts that are presented to a jury and the jury gets to decide, and we're not always going to agree with the jury. a lot of people didn't agree with the oj simpson verdict but didn't burn down l.a. over it. this point being, is that the first thing we have to do is remind every citizen what makes us unique as a count...

About this and michelle obama described what happened to her during a visit to a target store. she tells "people" "the only person who came up to me in the store was a woman who asked me to help her take something off the shelf because she didn't see me as the first lady but as someone that could help her. those kind of things happen in life so it isn't anything new." those comments have sparked a lot of reaction. let's talk about that. good to see you, charles. so you wrote this piece. you open it with this notion back to michelle obama antidote about being in the target store. the woman want...