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They're trying to score points. we've seen it in the past. democrats have voted for increased barriers, stronger security, more enforcement and yet they turn around when it's to their political advantage and do the exact opposite with president trump. >> what you hear from republicans that democrats believe in open borders. we don't believe in open borders but in protecting the borders. in 2006 it was passed by speaker nancy pelosi. so the idea -- >> bill: that was the point kellyanne was making last hour. if you voted for it 12 years ago why not support it now? >> there are a lot of other thi...

About defeating terrorism. we were mocked and ignored. go back and look at the headlines two weeks out everywhere. the talk on networks like this, we were completely dismissed. secretary clinton wasn't even mentioning donald trump's name most of the time. >> joel, let me turn to you. she brought up this. it seems as if -- we gathered the reasons that you and others have given to hillary clinton's defeat. james comey, third party candidate, sexism, young voters shgsz media, obamacare preem ups, bernie sanders, health rumors. what wasn't on there was the point kellyanne brought up, hillary clint...

That included when i told you and your colleagues there is an under cover under counted trump vote. there's not. maybe it's under counted for hillary people said. these rally sizes matter. it portends the momentum that is owned by donald trump. we're the ones with the message. we're the ones turning these counties around that president obama carried twice. with over 50% of the vote, and we switch ed 200 counties, and e did it with messages that mattered to people. he is the guy that talked about veterans, and talked about defeating terer errorism. we were mocked and ignored. go back and look a...

No undergrads. >> hey, a vote is a vote. >> they're grad students. they're grad students. [ laughter ] the point kellyanne was trying to make and i get that it wasn't the best talking point but when you're not 50%, it means the american public isn't convinced and this isn't over. we have 20 days left and trump has to make strong arguments and that argument is about the economy and that he is the outsider. it's up to the american people. if they want change, he's their candidate. if they want the status quo, we know where to go. >> scott tee, ed rollins want trump to win but he said you need a ...