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I would imagine at some point mueller's team will be able decipher it. my expertise is what the russians were up to. i can say for sure the russians were up to no good. >> i suspect mueller's team fully already knows and probably has known for a long time who that blocked phone call went to. the president's private residence at trump tower was a blocked phone. when do you think the president actually learned about that trump tower meeting and the russian offer of dirt on hillary clinton? >> it's entirely unclear. it could have been right after that, if that was a blocked

About the team that mueller put -- strike that. the team that mueller put together when you talk to people in legal circles recognize there is a lot of talent and lengthy resumes with a lot of experience on that team. the idea that the brushback pitch will throw them off kilter i think is not realistic. does it feed narratives? no question about it. you have heard the president say it i think he said it in a speech about an hour and a half later. the interesting element is how they handle this. the special counsel's team has a lot of experience dealing with things like this. what their next st...

Intelligence services hacked into the dnc commuters and used the information to advance its own interest, destabilizing the u.s. political environment and supporting donald trump. in the trump campaign, russia found a willing and active partner in this effort. it goes on from there. at length and in detail spelling out the allegation. here is the thing. a lot of people who have been watching robert mueller and the special counsel investigation closely, a lot of people who are close on sebservers believe, ha come to expect that at some point mueller will probably bring indictments that relate t...

A lot of people who have been watching robert mueller and the special counsel investigation closely, a lot of people who are close observers believe, have come to expect that at some point mueller will probably bring indictments that relate to the hack of the dnc. i don't say that because i have insider information. i don't. when mueller indicted the russians a couple of months ago, it was not for the break-in of the dnc hack, but the indictment can of all of the russians a couple of months ago was for the social media stuff. that indictment of the russians, that was for social media stuff tha...

In the southern district, there was a magistrate, a judge to look into is this. so it wasn't just mueller on his own deciding to do this tbut -- >> i'm talking about the political public -- which is ultimately what all these things come down to, right? you're sort of -- i think up to this point mueller's been very tight on this stuff. this is a dramatic move. that's not speculation. we all believe this is dramatic. this is serious. if you don't find something, if you go to these lengths or find something that's not that big of a deal, and, you know, it's been raised to this level, i believe th...