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Is that something mueller says to doj, congress has got to esee that. that's not something we're going to bury inside justice. >> part of the rational of the opinion that says the president can't be prosecuted doesn't say the president was king or above the law, it says we have another mechanism to resolve it and now there's congress and that would mean there has to be a way for congress to get the relevant information. > >> so a lot of people talk about mueller. do you think the evidence points to trump lying about that answer? >> i don't know. i know that you're reporting what another news o...

I want to dive into something i haven't had a chance to touch yet. the other mueller-related bombshell which michael cohen dropped today on both roger stone and donald trump. i'll explain why it is potentially the most legally significant thing. evidence suggesting trump may have misled mueller in writing. a special breakdown of cohen's testimony on hush payments. what i'm telling you is we have a whole lot more when we come back after the break. you're watching a special edition of "the beat." watching edition of "the beat." ♪ your grace. your majesty. your king. a legacy of leaders, speede...

>> mr. trump knew from roger stone in advance about the wikileaks drop of e-mails. in july of 2016. days before the democratic convention. i was in mr. trump's office when his secretary announced that roger stone was on the phone. >> now, why could that be credible? as a general matter, cohen would be risking extra jail time if he lies about something that mueller has been studying and could easily debunk. as a specific matter, mueller released separate evidence which actually reinforces this brand new allegation that we've been studying from cohen. because the indictment of roger stone says a...

More jail. so the republicans part of saying liar liar pants on fire. i thought the meadows when meadows looked like a fool when he was waving that document around and it turned out that michael's point was correct and his point was incorrect, i also thought aoc -- there were so many openings to your point for where investigations can go. i have not been a big fan of aoc. i thought she did a great job because she teed up the tax returns. i love all the kids came up explicitly. at this point mueller has not even interviewed junior yet. and there were certainly things about junior. and going bac...

Crimes mueller charged manafort with in the district of columbia. that's two conspiracies. they involve manafort's money laundering and failure to file as a russian agent and movement of money. of course his obstruction of justice with konstantin kilimnik. the reason we got this glimpse into the conspiracy aspect is mueller alleged manafort violated his plea agreement. part of it was this russia conspiracy. the fact it is not in the sentencing memo which is for unrelated charges tells us nothing about what mueller might be sitting on. >> i'm coming to you, seema. we don't have paul butler here...