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Around these messages? >> think it is bigger than russia. i think the withhold world has found out that the way to flip trump to get him in your interest is to get him in a one--on-one meeting and feed him these things. if you speak loudly -- not loudly, strongly. that's the word the president likes. if you speak strongly, you will flip him. there are lots of instances of that. one i know well is what putin did in helsinki when he met one-on-one with president trump and right before then mr. mueller indicted 12 gru military officers. so putin came to helsinki with this crazy, cockamamie idea t...

Let me start with you and what i heard from a former u.s. intelligence official today that donald trump's compilation of seemingly bizarre, seemingly random, seemingly -- let me just be blunt, stupid comments about russia are probably at this point likely under scrutiny by people investigating his relationship, his contacts, his coordination, if you will, with russia. >> my goodness, nicole, i think they would have to be. we were wondering why michael flynn was debriefed 19 times. it struck us all as an extraordinary number. maybe now we have a bit more insight into what the mueller team and t...

Them how foreign policy was crafted? >> oh, absolutely nicole. look, just because flynn was interviewed 19 times doesn't mean flynn was the only person interviewed. in fact, far from it. i assume all of the people who were in those meetings whether it is dina powell or h.r. mcmaster or others have been interviewed. it doesn't mean every single one of them has to go in front of the grand jury. obviously you can talk to investigators outside of the grand jury, and that's a reasonably common occurrence, too. but you bet they're talking to everybody because people have different and innocent recol...

Maybe the numerous probes into trump's businesses are taking their toll. quote, "investigators are also swarming the company, and that is putting it at risk of having to disclose private financial information in court cases and before congress now that democrats have taken over the house of representatives according to congressional staff." just how big is that swarm around the businesses? here's what we know. we know that mueller has subpoenaed the trump organization. we know former attorney michael cohen and cfo alan weisselberg have been cooperating with federal prosecutors. we know donald ...

New grand jury in, install them and completely get them up to speed, it is typical to extend the grand jury for a period, as here of six months. it does strongly signal that mueller is not ready to finish up in the next month or two and has a little bit more work to do. >> chuck, same question to you. this extension of the grand jury means there are potentially more witnesses to appear before the grand jury. what else does it mean? >> absolutely. joyce is spot on in her analysis. first, it is relatively routine. you could put the entire case in front of a new grand jury, but it is easier to ex...