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Needed to know his intent before making certain decisions in his presidency. and of course we know what that refers to, is the firing of james comey. and at this point mueller has not changed his mind, and the trump team remains pretty entrenched about not having the president testify as you keep hearing publicly from giuliani. >> gloria, thanks very much. more legal aid now. john dean. he has seen these things from the inside. he was white house counsel to president nixon. what does it say the president was even one time closer to sitting down with robert mueller? >> not only his legal team i...

Kind of a lull. because the mueller team and the trump team were on very different places. so they had a meeting on march 5th and another one on march 12th. but at the march 5th meeting, i'm told by a source, mueller reiterated that he needed to see the president, he needed to talk to the president because he needed to know his intent before making certain decisions in his presidency. and of course we know what that refers to, is the firing of james comey. and at this point mueller has not changed his mind, and the trump team remains pretty entrenched about not having the president testify as ...

Pressure, he's not aware of things happening on the world stage. do you think he'll be more aggressive seeking the interview? >> he's going to have to make decisions that have political consequence. whether it's around the election, and more acutely the north korea thing. if the president was going to north korea and mueller said, look, i've had enough of these negotiations, i want to subpoena him. would it be in the back of mueller's mind, if i did this during these negotiations before or even after while they were hammering out the details, is that unfair to the president? is it going make i...

Special counsel probe would be wrapped up by september 1 if the president agrees to do an interview. do you think it's a good idea for either the mueller probe or for rudy giuliani to try to put a date on it and to leave the president out there for an entire hot summer with the continued discussion on this? >> it will be a really hot summer. if giuliani has these conversations with mueller where he is getting big information about the big picture, you tell your clint but i'm not sure you want to tell the world. at some point mueller will look at giuliani as a hot mic and stop addressing him. i...

Subpoenas to jason sullivan, a man who worked as a former social media adviser to roger stone. mueller, of course, we know has cast a very wide net, we know that he is very interested in talking to a number of former trump associates and that he is interested possibly in connections between roger stone and wikileaks founder julian assange. now, roger stone told cnn yesterday this man, jason sullivan, only worked for him for two months and he said as far as i know, all of his social media activities were perfectly legal. roger stone also tells me this morning that as of today he still has not b...