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And if they have a role in order to put a check on the disruption of trump now this is obviously problematic for a lot of reasons one for one statement im just going to let us of this drop there he said you know i want to renegotiate their thing all our economic deals. Nato is perhaps obsolete they want to get rid of the wars so the purpose of this 4th branch of power the deep state would then be to maintain the status quo or Thomas Friedman its like the tyranny of status quo they seem to think ok well then what do we need elected officials for i mean if theyre already in charge theyre going t...

Intelligence officers and white house people tripping up to capitol hill right now and saying these are people who are doing their duty you are responding to a higher call. Higher tall claim hes making a reference to people that are unelected. And also telling us that these elected officials they have the right and even obligation maybe even moral obligation to disagree and obstruct elected official the president of the United States and well that has been part of the development of this narrative about the deep state that is 1st of all that has existed and its recognized that yes it does exis...

Need elected officials for i mean if theyre already in charge theyre going to be making the decisions why do we need to elect officials i mean it seems to me that they know they claim to know better and if we accept them as a 4th branch then were just going to have president s that will mimic their talking points i mean this is a serious moment here well you heard of friends we have to say we cant be naive we had deep state is in all kinds of powers and kingdoms and they always have been mean and mean what this does different is that there is trying to subvert the will of the people ok i think...

A check on trumped his successes and i dont believe thats what we have congress for and thats what we have the courts for exactly and thats the thing because this ng and you know this really standing up for the constitution and the American People however the american system over it has a check on power that i dont have 6 i could branch which you have the legislative and the judiciary so what this really could even see in the media is also those of you know 4th of. The recognizing that this is a 4th branch of power that is. Going to be conceptualized as being this bureaucracy or Intelligence S...

Hello and welcome to crossfire for all Things Considered im Peter Lavelle we were told there was no such thing as the deep state now were told to adore it also arms control is dying and we should all be worried and concerned and why Samantha Power is a hypocrite. Cross talking some real news im joined by my guest here in moscow he is a political analyst we also have glenn hes a professor at the Higher School of economics as well as author of the decay of western civilization and resurgence of russia and were joined by Dmitry Babich hes a political analyst and editor at you know its me internet...