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Love it or hate it, you know, point-to-point, issue-to-issue, this is how he sells himself and it's worked so far. >> gabby, let's examine the president's message yesterday instead the over the heads of the base to the rest of his party. yesterday saying these people are sick and they start looking at my deals and finances that, obviously, worked for the room and it worked for the base. but is there anything we saw this week, especially with cohen and what we expect next week and when felix seder testifies and the oversight when the democrats make that a harder sell beyond the president's base...

Munich where i've just heard from my producer that is just getting miked up once again and apparently we can actually go to her now so that's good news mchale i hope you can hear me now and we were just talking about you know potentially the soul searching that must be going on down there right now what are you hearing what are you seeing. books are you ready also talked about the blame game and that's also it's already as you said we already hear it's good to hear from the leading figures of the see you see you pointing towards polls that showed more than eighty percent some eighty nine perce...

>> and it's true the op-ed takes a turn late in the game and goes into almost speechwriter poetry. you could conceivably come up with two or three people in the business that write with that soaring a style and would quote john mccain. but point to, for you, you and maggie haber man man at the "nek times" are the first journalists in my memory that first started talking about president versus presidency. what do you mean in this case? >> there's a couple ways to interpret it, but in this particular case, things happen at the white house on two different tracks. donald trump wants something to ...

Into almost speechwriter poetry. you could conceivably come up with two or three people in the business that write with that soaring a style and would quote john mccain. but point to, for you, you and maggie haberman at the "new york times" are the first journalists in my memory that first started talking about president versus presidency. what do you mean in this case? >> there's a couple ways to interpret it, but in this particular case, things happen at the white house on two different tracks. donald trump wants something to happen and the administration is working in a different direction....

Administration. [ overlapping voices ] >> obama should have done more, but mcconnell shouldn't have blocked his efforts. and now trump, it's on him now to see what he does. he's the president. >> you're right. and today secretary of dhs, kirst kirstjen nielsen said we need to prepare for a category 5 event. >> what is he doing? >> so, governor -- >> he's been saying he doesn't believe there was a storm coming. he's been doing that for a long time, dave, and now they're starting to change their tune in the administration. we'll see what they do. >> can i just say -- >> i got to go. >> this is a...