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Harvey -- of harvey weinstein, stuff like that. i think she's going to pull back and let these professionals carve each other up. paul: but alicia's point is good, she's likable, she's popular, she's in many ways the emotional opposite of donald trump; that is, she's not divisive. she's somebody that says can't we all just get along? i've got a car for you, you know? there's a sort of good feeling about oprah, and people like to like their presidents, believe it or not, or at least we did once. [laughter] >> they do, but they also -- look, i think one of the biggest criticisms of donald trump ...

The question will the russia probe divide the republican party? willw us on the, two former ems in of congress both of whom are in recovery still, haroldford jr. from tennessee and jared jolly. congressman jolly, you are the republican, you get the first question. that is, is support of mueller going to be an increasingly visible dividing line in the republican party? and when do you expect to see some movement, some migration? >> i think it will be a dividing line with the base. right? the base is going to follow this president. they love the president because he is a fighter not because of h...

And the media piling on raising the question will the russia probe divide the republican party? willw us on the, two former ems in of congress both of whom are in recovery still, haroldford jr. from tennessee and jared jolly. congressman jolly, you are the republican, you get the first question. that is, is support of mueller going to be an increasingly visible dividing line in the republican party? and when do you expect to see some movement, some migration? >> i think it will be a dividing line with the base. right? the base is going to follow this president. they love the president because ...

You've seen that reflected in their comments. >> all right. robert, i want to give you the last word here. can you talk about how this white house is cannibalizing talent on the republican side? >> oh, big-time. to my knowledge, there isn't anyone, and no disrespect to my friends that are working in the white house now, but the place you want to be is the vice president's staff. i mean, that's a serious staff that's full of policy chops, that's professional. that's where you want to be. but to be in the west wing right now is not where you want to be. you definitely don't want this to be on yo...

And when do you expect to see some movement, some migration? >> i think it will be a dividing line with the base. right? the base is going to follow this president. they love the president because he is a fighter not because of his policy chops. and when gingrich and others kind of lose their credibility over this issue it will still work with the base. but the hill is a very different question. if the president were to do something that led to the dismissal of mueller i think you would say republicans on the hill begin to break. don't overlook what happened with rosenstein. the hill is stayin...