To as well. but you have to believe that north korea would be willing to give up its nuclear program, the one thing that's given it any power and prestige over the past several years. why on earth would kim jong-un give up his nuclear program and be left with, frankly, nothing? >> it's a good question. i don't know if he will. i think what joe was talking about with the iran nuclear deal and obama is actually a fairly good reflection point in parallel to look at this. i went back and read some of the reporting there. first of all, obama in 2007 announced that he would agree to meet without pre...