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Voters. i think were doing a very good job as working-class voters. our problem at the college educated elite in the suburbs from the republican party for number of reasons. we have to bring them back in the good news is, there is not a policy difference here as the three states i mentioned before, the selections recent elections purple states 40 used to be a one point state. the candidates have been governing with conservative principles and they captured all of the trump supporters and they did very well among women and minorities, hispanics and so forth. they won decisive victories. i think...

Sell by dates. >> he said one of his children's called him ageist, any joke here to look at up. i suspect he knew what it meant. >> [laughter] >> look it's, insisting, he said joe biden is a big spender, he said in his view, he -- he has a policy difference with joe biden, but as with him on ukraine, not a tough sell to the republic primary election. what does he do -- he made a smart point about new hampshire. undeclared, meaning independent voters can vote. and a democrat can vote, it's very rare, people talk about this all the time and they always clock out the strategy, i'm going to get pe...

Election day. i'm sorry, guys, nobody beats father time. nobody does. i'm different than i was when i first got into office 13 years ago, okay? i'm different, i feel it. and i cannot imagine 20 years from now, 22 years from now when i'm 60 years year old, at 82, being president of the united states? >> our panel is back, and john, he referred to both biden and trump as being bass there's sell by dates. >> he said one of his children 's called him ageist, any joke here to look at up. i suspect he knew what it meant. >> [laughter] >> look it's, insisting, he said joe biden is a big spender, he s...

Smear people. you'll see him saying, look, here's the policy difference. here's how i can win and put points on the board for conservative policy. and pro economic growth measures. >> but where he is different from trump on policy? >> i think he's a consistent conservative. he doesn't flip-flop. he has a track record in florida of producing economic growth. and trump's policies are all over the board. he is trying to be to the left and right. ron desantis on abortion, for instance, he's not really clear on spending. he's not really clear on other policy initiatives where governor desantis has ...

The economy if we don't pay for that tax cut now? >> i think we all know what would happen if we defaulted on our mortgage, if we tried to get another mortgage we'd have to pay a premium, a higher interest rate to compensate the lender for the risk that we might default again. that's what's going to happen if we default on our debt next week. the united states government the treasury department will pay higher interest rates forever. we turnly have experience with this in 1979, there was a technical default because the treasury computers didn't work properly. ten years later, economists calcul...