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>> yeah, the last time they brought us to the brink of this in 2011, moody's downgraded the u.s. from aaa-plus to aaa-minus and this was catastrophic, that sent wall street tumbling and it was a disaster, that was close to a default. i want to talk about that policy difference. republicans are insisting that the only way they're willing to raise the debt limit is if they get work requirements, let's start with facts, work requirements are already law, you can't get food stamps you have to be working unless you're taking care of a disabled person, you're a child. when they say they think people...

Edwards. ali, what more did mike pence tell you about that subpoena? his attempts to fight it? >> it was one of the topics we covered on friday. you heard some of the news he made there on the front of starting to draw contrast with his former boss, but not going so far as to delineate a policy difference. instead, making a broader argument on leadership. on the idea that he thinks they'll have better options for republican voters in 2024. notably he is openly thinking about being one of them and said for the first time in that interview with me that that decision will probably come by the spr...

This is something that, when i was covering the trump campaign that later became the trump pence campaign in 2015 and 2016, one of the things that we would often talk about was just how stylistically these two politicians were so different. and now pence is gonna have to walk this tightrope of showing that he is a different kind of leader than trump. he used words like, a return to respect. civility, different kind of leader in our conversation yesterday. that is him trying to drop contrast in terms of style. but in terms of substance, this is where it is going to be really fascinating to watc...

This is one of the problems that we've been facing. but i think — i know that the three forces have been put to start growing food and everything in certain government lands that have been used for so long, but i think — and i know that when it comes to colombo, the colombo municipal council has been using some of their land to — for food production as well, but unfortunately, there's been little hiccups here and there in which hopefully we can tweak it and get things moving along as soon as possible. ok, hemantha? i think we have a huge problem with this policy difference. - it's becaus...

To come and do their — to get their food growing in everything, they find it very hard to get land allocated to do that. this is one of the problems that we've been facing. but i think — i know that the three forces have been put to start growing food and everything in certain government lands that have been used for so long, but i think — and i know that when it comes to colombo, the colombo municipal council has been using some of their land to — for food production as well, but unfortunately, there's been little hiccups here and there in which hopefully we can tweak it and get thing...