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One is it seems like when the president of the united states decided he wanted to get rid of bob muell mueller, some freaked about it. that shows it was probably both a politically bad idea, but also bad for him as far as legal exposure goes. then when he and others go about lying about it, cnn points eight or nine different occasions that the firing had never been discussed. the question you have to ask yourself and that people might have to ask themselves why lie if it was appropriate and it was just sort of a policy difference. often the reason people lie is because they knew that not only ...

A.m. >> yeah. which i guess gets to the doziness. what i was wondering from jonathan's reporting on wilbur ross was to what extent he thought this was a policy difference that the president had with ross over trade. i mean one of the interesting things in the first year of the trump administration is that he hasn't imposed massive tariffs on join and he hasn't blown you have nafta yet. we may start to see that happen. we've seen some tariffs come in in the last 24 hours. is it policy at all? or is it other things that he feels he's not tough enough, not as rich as he said he was going to be an...

Judy here. some questions: who does this help? does this advance the consecutive populace agenda at all? what is going through both side's minds. donald trump is the head of the republican party. it's not bannon or me. it's donald trump. with these statements, bannon has given credence to the worse conspiracy theories of the impeach trump forces. bannon probably won himself a trip to testify on capitol hill. is that what bannon wants? i know steve bannon. is that what he wants? if there is a policy difference between trump and bannon have an exchange. fellows, it didn't really make

The protests, most people think it is about the flag or whether or not there's patriotism. the idea of these he players protesting police brutality is almost long gone and a second thought so it could really, really work. >> we're headed where the base of both party will be stirred up. >> charlottesville is political nitroglycerin. >> i'm a little uncomfortable, it is going to end badly. >> it won't end well however the election goes. it won't end well. >> i don't know that ignoring this issue was possible, feasible. after it happened. >> and sitting out there, that put some pressure. and howe...

I do want to point out one things he says in there. i'm one of the people charles talks about in this piece that recognize president trump brought a sense of hon -- i think it's important also to note a lot of what we're seeing out of president trump is not a personal grievance. these are policy difference. and he campaigned on doing away with obamacare. he campaigned on rolling back some of what they view as unconstitutional executive orders. and he campaigned on pullic back on a lot of the policies that barack obama implemented as president. and that's what we're seeing. that's why we're try...