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>> well, whatever is most current is what really resonates with voters. and talking about the iran deal right now certainly is going to resonate with these voters in these early primary states. the caucus state of iowa and primary state of new hampshire. so this is a race why in order to connect with voters you have got to do -- at least do things that are meaningful right then and right now. so i would just think that jeb bush, in addition to being the policy guy that he is. because he's a very solid policy guy. he's got to also talk about those issues that are front and center in the minds o...

Badding, because not only is he sucking up all the oxygen, but he's putting out a face for the party that they don't see, they don't align with. that is also problematic. a lot of people are going to trump because of his personality like the "new york times" wrote. not because of his deep policy ideas where jeb bush is someone who is a policy guy. it's not as shiny, it's not as exciting, so right now, everyone saul about trump. >> this is a scene, obviously, in mobile alabama, and i really enjoyed reading this "new york times" article about the demographics and this diverse coalition of people...

Able to do as a junior senator before. >> ana, what's your take? who do you think did well last night? the fact that you're not necessarily singing the praises of the candidate you support, jeb bush makes me wonder why not? >> listen i think jeb had very good answers. i don't think he had very good moments. in a debate when there's ten people you need both in order to stand out. i think -- jeb is a policy guy, a substance guy. he's put a lot of meat into 60 seconds. he's learned how to answer and pivot. he's become very good at that. i think now it's about figuring out how to stand out. it's v...

Because we can have a conversation in the abstract, but if we're not connecting that to people's lives, which is part of why the video started the way it did, with people and talking about their lives and everyday issues, but i also think today, you know, she did lay out a framework. she talked about sort of four different areas. she talked about community -- >> it's politics. >> okay, hold on. i know, i know you think it's -- but -- >> it's politics. i'm not hating on that. >> but the idea is -- i think she laid out a framework. i think to your point, constitutional amendment and talked about...

She talked about community -- >> it's politics. >> okay, hold on. i know, i know you think it's -- but -- >> it's politics. i'm not hating on that. >> but the idea is -- i think she laid out a framework. i think to your point, constitutional amendment and talked about the hedge fund carried interest and talked about for profit colleges and college affordability. >> and endorsed the president's college's community college plan, a substantive position, she's on the record. >> and something she's been supportive of in the past. that being said, this process, three to four weeks talking to people,...