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Joining me right now, a former intelligence officer and briefer at the cia. he was also robert mueller's cia daily intelligence briefer for a year and he's now the chief operating officer of the law fair incident. >> happy thanksgiving. >> happy thanksgiving. so what is your gut intinct telling you about why the president is showing such allegiance to the saudi arabian leadership, versus the cia's most recent finding? >> let me go big and then i'll go small. going big, there is a long history of presidents disagreeing with intelligence assentments or even if not disagreeing with them, choosing...

Full of sin. they were born damned in a way. >> right. that they have to be fixed by other people. it's got profound policy implication ands obviously societal as well. desiree and chloe, thanks for coming on the beat and telling us about it. >> it will be available across digital platforms. and we will be back with one more thing. ♪ my love has come along, applebee's new neighborhood pastas. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. applebee's new neighborhood pastas. ...that's why i've got the power of 1-2-3 medicines with trelegy. the only fda-approved 3-in-1 copd treatment. ♪ trelegy...

The small, unmanned, earth-circling satellites. eisenhower recognized no modern country could be militarily preeminent without also being scientifically eminent. does that have a policy implication for us right now? >> completely. he saw the transition between, we're a mighty military because we have this many troops on the border, and we are a mighty military because we have the science and technology to render most of that even unnecessary because you have intelligence that tells you where you need to put troops and why you need to put them where they are and how to attain the new high under...

>> thank you, mr. -- >> how long do you want to go on? >> that was the question. now, the chairman had a choice. the democrats wanted to vote to adjourn the hearing, then to delay the hearing, to do some other things. he could have had votes. he decided not to have votes because he didn't want to give in to the democrats, i presume, unless he didn't think he had the votes. but at this moment, he mentioned the gorsuch hearings. that was a conservative replacing a conservative. there is the policy implication for the democrats that this is a more conservative, we believe, we don't know until if ...

Arguing and winning on a set of facts about again intentional discrimination in texas. and then the justice department reverses position as if they found the facts no longer were the facts. it's what maya was saying. this is policy disguised as law. this is i get to do what i want because i've got the power. that's what this is. >> absolutely. it's also bad policy. i mean, one of the reasons congress has not been able to completely dismantle the affordable care act is because it's popular and actually has support. it's popular because people need to see a doctor when they're sick and they coul...