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Adviser would need to lie or to make misleading statements about communications with foreign entities? >> i cannot think of one, nor have i experienced one. look, this was at the time the national security adviser, the last time i saw michael flynn in the white house, he was being briefed on all of the covert action programs and the special intelligence programs that were being run in pursuit around the world. this is not an unsophisticated policy maker. this is someone who had been vaulted to the top echelon of the national security council and the foreign policy infrastructure. this is not s...

Sides more please would the outcome. i think it's important to remember much of what trump put forward, he did in part because cameras were there and something that pelosi, an experienced policy maker made clear she did not want to happen. >> thanks, eugene. erse the accused russian agent that built ties with the national rifle association and republicans has agreed to cooperate with federal prosecutors. she will plead guilty of one count of conspiracy for working with as a foreign agent in the u.s. she'll admit to acting at the direction of a russian official to establish unofficial lines w...

Listening. but i feel like this is see no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil, three monkeys sitting on a couch not willing to accept what the cia is trying to tell them. and quite frankly, it is so -- i was trying to think of an instance where i went up to capitol hill on a very serious security issue without the cia. i know that the republican majority would have insisted upon it because, quite frankly, they're more interested in listening to an intelligence assessment than to a policy maker's assessment because they think it will be more factual. and without politics, and i think that's exact...

They're more interested in listening to an intelligence assessment than to a policy maker's assessment because they think it will be more factual. and without politics, and i think that's exactly why john bolton and the president see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. >> and, ambassador sherman, it also seems like they actively do not want to listen to it because they do not care, that there is nothing that they could possibly hear in that recording that would in any way affect their thinking about saudi arabia. >> indeed. i think that the trump administration, quite frankly a lot of leader...

And not every george w. bush paper was handed over. but because brett kavanaugh was the president's secretary for three years, doesn't mean he was a policy maker on most of those matters. >> you mentioned 2020. i would remiss if i did not ask what are the odds you will launch a primary challenge to president trump or run as an independent and run for president yourself in 2020? >> i think the odds are a lot higher that i run for the noxious weed control board of dodge county, nebraska than that. i lived on a campaign bus a year, about 16 months, five years ago. in my mind i still have flashbac...