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The judicial branch can never exercise the policymaking role that is reserved to the congress. admittedly speaking level of generality, tough cases, margins trying to figure out what the line is. as general proposition, important for every judge to go in with mindset of, i'm not the policy maker, i'm the interpreter of the law applier in a particular case. i think that is very important part of the federalist paper woven into the constitutional structure in article three and that judges i'd certainly have tried for 12 years as judge on the dc circuit to incorporate that basic foundational prin...

And she's pregnant. that is a difficult situation. i recognized and tried to understand that. as a judge, not the policy maker, i tried to understand whether the government's policy was consistent with the supreme court's precedence. i did the best i could. i said, some people disagree with those precedents and think those kinds of statutes should not be allowed. but i had -- precedent is not like a cafeteria where i can take this and not that. i had to take casey in completely. casey reaffirmed roe -- >> i have some other questions. please -- >> it's an important question and -- >> a critical...

That at face value. look, as a policy maker before donald trump got elected president and all of this happened, getting to a place where we can get along better with russia is crucially important. one of the issues i'm working on is to try to stop nuclear proliferation, reduce odds of us stumbling into nuclear war. russia and the u.s. are the two largest nuclear powers by a large margin. us being in a better place, dialoguing better so we can avoid that would be critical. in afghanistan, syria, a bunch of places, there are places it would be a better world if we got along with russia, but that...

For you on the white board. we'll put it on online, on my twitter feed and the show's feed if you didn't get it. how about the strategy in play? for that, we've got as good a guest as we can have. cnn counterterrorism analyst phil mudd. let's make three quick points. first of all you say don't get too deep in the weeds of strategy. look at the president first, why? >> i love these strategy conversations. can we look at the personality of the president? repeatedly he's told us how he thinks. he's told this, and he said this publicly, i'm the only policy maker in public office. forget about stat...

>> i bet you looked at the big letter from kim jong-un that was brought right into the oval office. today the white house said that the president now disagrees with vladimir putin's offer to question ambassador mcfall and other americans and other diplomats. as a former ambassador, are you dismayed that it took the president three days to come to that conclusion? >> you know, i don't know how to answer questions like that. my focus now is on what is happening around the world. that is what i was hired to do. i can't focus on -- when i was a policy maker in the congress we liked to think as sen...