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Then we see the extraordinary mistake over fisa where he leaps onto a conspiracy theory on fox news 30 minutes later despite a strong statement about the fisa reauthorization as it's going up for a final vote on the house floor. a strong statement from the white house, something that has been worked on for months and months and months by the intelligence agencies and his own security cabinet. what do we make of this president? >> he's not a policy monk, you can say that about him. and what chuck said about the immigration policy, you can either be the guy that goes into that bipartisan meeting...

You say to that? >> what did he do with it? 5 and a half million jobs down than we were before the recession began. in 1981 we had a tough recession. at this .4 years after we had gained 6 million jobs because ronald reagan took tough steps to be able to provide tax relief. you get the economy moving again. i think gosh three and a half almost 4 years later it's tough to say who was the other guy. >> the man to do that is mitt romney. >> portman has a midwestern appeal on the stump. but he can get down into the weeds of economic policy. he also tried his hand at roll playing helping john mccai...